I mean seriously!
There is no simpler a solution than a DVD player that outputs the 480i signal decoded from the DVD to an HDMI output. There’s no processing, no deinterlacing, no scaling. Just decode it and output it. Bam! Done!
My current home theater is based around a Denon AVR-2308CI Receiver which handles all my video processing thanks to it’s magical voodoo (and a DCDi video processor
). When searching for a DVD player to solve my previously mentioned DVD watching dilemma, I wanted just a simple DVD player that can output 480i over HDMI. Why should I waste my money on an upconverting DVD player when my receiver can do the same function (and probably better). Seemed simple, right?
WRONG!
It seems the internet defacto DVD player that does 480i is the Oppo Digital DV-980H which weighs in at $169 MSRP!
There are a couple other options as well, including the previous Oppo Digital DVD player model, DV-970HD which was specifically marketed as a ‘cheap’ player that supports 480i over HDMI. The problem you ask? It’s no longer offered directly from Oppo and it still sells for > $100 in the secondary used market.
An hour or so of Google-Fu later I landed on the Pioneer DV-400V-K DVD Player! Pioneers own website lists its MSRP as $99 and with some luck I found it refurbished through an Amazon reseller for $49!
EURIKA! At last the lords of the Internet blessed me with a little devine intervention on my search results
I got to wondering after my pilgrimage to find this DVD player, why does it have to be so hard? I mean, if manufacturers like Denon offer Receivers with video upscaling and deinterlacing already included, why do they also sell DVD players with the SAME functionality? You’d think they’d try to offer a family of products that not only work well with one another but don’t waste your money on duplicate hardware that you won’t be utilizing. Denon is a prime example of this because even their ‘low end’ DVD player still carries an MSRP of $169 (and even then, it uses the built in DVD hardware deinterlacer without offering pure 480i output).
So as I said, there HAS to be a good quality family of products out there that are symbiotic and AFFORDABLE because they’re saving money on not having to waste it on unused hardware.






#1 by Ilango on December 10, 2009 - 6:20 PM
Hey Eric,
Ran across your rant from a bit ago… and I can very much relate. How did the DV-410V-K work in the end?
It’s been bugging me the whole day (ok more than just a day) that it’s still so difficult to find a cheap player that outputs 480i over HDMI. Your post is over a year old… but the problem you faced was not going to get any better with time. Sigh.
I’m looking at a Denon 2310CI and the ABT chip is has does the Progressive Re-Processing (PReP™) feature but Denon disabled it in this model! (Only Denon’s higher models have it enabled). And just like you mentioned I want the Denon to do the video processing. PRep is cool cause it will take a 480p single re-interlace back to 480i then let the ABT chip reprocess it to 480p –> do 2/3 pull down –> then scale –> (now one has a 1080p/24 signal).
And most standard Blu Ray players out there do a poor job upconverting and the ones that do even a good job pretty much just duplicate the hardware the Denon has.
Alas a used Oppo DV-970H is impossible to find (and probably still in high demand). And a DV-980H is in short supply on eBay and still goes for $120-$150+ (USED)! Yeah it has a lot of features… but I need none of them.
Rant over… anyway, if you get a chance please let me know how that Pioneer worked out for you. Definitely would appreciate it!
thank man!
#2 by eric on December 10, 2009 - 8:10 PM
The Pioneer DV-410-K actually did the trick! I was able to output 480i over HDMI without issue.
I’m still shocked that this feature is being pushed to the wayside even on newer Blu-Ray players that offer DVD playback. If it’s a true high end player, I should be able to output 480i to my ABT or other dedicated deinterlacer/scaler if I want to!
What new models are you looking into?